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writething (Cybrary
WebMaster): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 6:57PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Hi, just a note that
Dr. Feig may have some initial problems hooking up here. A little
background:
Dr. Konnilyn Feig
Topic: Researching and Teaching the
Holocaust
***Dr. Konnilyn Feig
After more than 20 years of extensive
research, interviewing survivors, and visiting concentratrion camp sites, Dr.
Konnilyn Feig published one of the best documentaries of the Holocaust, HITLER'S
DEATH CAMPS (Holmes & Meir, 1979). Since her work on the concentration
camps, she has served as International Co-Chair of ARWAC - Aid to Refusnik Women
and Children - a successful effort to get Prisoners of Conscience out of Old
USSR. She is now a specialist in Eastern Europe, especially former Yugoslavia,
and Romania and has spent parts of most of the past 10 years in Russia, the
Chech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria, Croatia, etc. She spent much time this past
summer in Romania, Croatia, Bosnia. She is currently directing a volunteer
project in Romania on Breast Cancer Assistance.
Dr. Feig still teaches the only Holocaust class in the 110 California Community Colleges and will have a WEB page on that soon. She recently led two sessions on the Holocaust for the National Conference on Humanities of the Community Colleges.
Dr. Konnilyn Feig is Dean of Business and Social Sciences and Professor of
History and Political Science at Foothill College, Los Altos Hills, Ca.
Formerly, she was Senior VP of San Francisco State University amd Dean of Arts
and Sciences at University of Southern Maine.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:00PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I am here! But
the system is responding slowly tonight so we will have to be patience.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:00PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I would like us
to begin and if you don't mind, I would like to make a brief statement?
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:01PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr Feig - I
do not know whether this is the right forum - or whther a reply could come to me
by private e-mail. The UK Government is rejecting applications for asylum from
Russian Jews on the grounds that there is no OFFICIAL antisemitism in Russia
today, and they are free to practice their religion. Is there any legal evidence
available which could be used by an applicant in a court - appealing against
deportation orders based on this view of the UK Home Office?
Dixie Rose (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 7:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I must leave - but before I do, I would like to
say the names again: Pini and Alta Rotstein Fink and their two young sons, Jude
and David; Yeheskal Rotstein; Rosa Rotstein and her family; all from Kalwarija,
Lithuania; shot by the Nazis November 1941. Menachem Amsterdamski, died at
Dachau, Comando Kaufering, January 23, 1945. Chaim Rotstein, killed by the
Russians in 1941 - but a victim of the Nazis. May they rest in peace and never
be forgotten.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let's all thank
Cybrary for taking the time to do this program. And thank you all for inviting
me and joining us. A disclaimer: there is no way to be accurately terse and
clear about such a complex and painful human subject as the Holo. with all its
subleties of meaning. Thus noting I say will be "accurate. I am here to honor
the strugglers who died and the strugglers who lived from Hitler's Final and
Partial Solutions. And to reflect on the continuity of human abuse and
indifference. I do this tonite in a mode of some reverence and a continuing
quest for the questions and answers. Let's talk together.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:09PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
David your
question is appropriate. I spent years going inot the Soviet Union to try to
help get the Prisoners of Conscience out. I realized one day that if I needed to
see smoke coming from chimnies and smell fresh graves to know that abuse was
alive and well, then I was doomed. Hence the USSR. As you may know, I and 5
others won a US Supremem Court case on the isuue to which you speak. AS is alive
and well in Russia and the Ukraine. Other "isms" are alive and well in other
countries. But Congress has a set of old laws under which it would appear that
only acute and horrendous and unsubtle oppression is recognized. I think we need
to keep talking with our congresspersons.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:13PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let's discuss
Hitler for a moment. Why do you think Hitler had such an impact on a civilized
modern nation such as Germany?
GYNMan (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 7:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - As a Holocaust researcher I am hoping
you can advise me on finding the proper resources. I am researching the medical
experiments at Auschwitz. Not the commonly known ones but more focused on the
experiments that were developed by the physicians, rather than the Reich. In
particular, I am seeking to prove and follow up on the relationship between
Eduard Wirths (Auschwitz chief medical officer) and his brother Helmut. Any
Advice?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Hitler was the
tip of the iceberg. Without the active, vigorous indifference of the people of
the allied and neutral nations, the Final Solution would not have vented its
full fury. Until Bosnia, I believed that if CNN had been in the countries with
the concentration camps, that there would have been no Solution and no Genocide.
In other words, that making the horrors visible would stop them. I now know that
is not true. What, I wonder, does stop a Holocaust? What I wonder catalyzes
humans to want to assist in stopping abuse and death?
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:19PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Do you think
that he was expressing fears/ concerns appealing to many of the German people
who eventually became affiliated with the Nazi party?
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The main reason Hitler gained so much
support in the 1930s was the economic crisis of the 1920s. Many people felt
aggrieved by the Weimar republic and its concessions in the Versailles
settlement. They were also angry at the economic situation and the Jews were an
easy scapegoat which Hitler preyed on.
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:21PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The
conditions, political, economical, and societal, were as such that the people of
Germany were fertile soil for any damagogue who offered, seemingly easy,
achievable solutions. Add to this anti-semitism that was part of their culture
(Luther) to begin with, and then you have a "winning combination" to seduce a
nation. But of course Hitler had some forrunners. Both in Europe and Anerica.
Just think of the Eugenics movement in the USA.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:21PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Gynman: I am
interested in the same issue. It is bigger, I am afraid, than Nazi Germany. I
just returned from Croatia and Romania where I met with the Ministers of Health
of those countries to try to do something about breast cancer there. The men I
met with were doctors in the Old Regimes - and I need say no more. I know these
men. So - for research, I am sure you have read Lifton, etc. Give your EMail
address to Joey Korn or the CyLibrary and I will try to send you a list. But
please share your sources with me because I am searching in my mind.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:22PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On Hitler, OKK
- but many countries have grievances. I could name dozens. And they do not
produce a Holocaust. So I still wonder.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I'm just joinging the
conversation, and I noticed the question as to why Hitler gained so much power
and had so much impact on a society such as Germany. I feel that the people felt
distressed. They wanted someone to help them with their problems. Hitler gave
them something to blame their problems on. In affect, they no longer worried
about what was wrong, but punishing the people who "caused" the problems. In
such a desperate time people were not able to realize how foolishly they were
acting.
ANadine (ANadine): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
"What, I wonder, does stop a Holocaust?
What I wonder catalyzes humans to want to assist in stopping abuse and death?"
If we could figure this out... Yet CNN exists, but we have Bosnia, we have
Rwanda, we have poverty within the States that keeps minority groups from
getting adequate nutrition and immunizations -- what can stop it?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:26PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I rather much
observe that we as humans are not getting better and better every decade as we
used to believe. Horrible abuse occurs periodically. The difference really
amounts to finding ways to address the vigorous, active, indifference that we
human beings seem to exhibit across the earth. If we had said, no way back in
the late 30s when we had information or even in 40 or 41 or 44 when the 600,000
Hungarian Jews went to their deaths, we would have saved many many lives. I
happen to believe that saving 10 lives or 100 or 600,000 ought to occupy our
minds and energy.
stickleback (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:28PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Do you hold
any opinion of Goldhagen's book? Please excuse me if this has been discussed
already. I just joined.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr.Feig: The title
for this particular session was concerning the teaching of the Holocaust. If I
may ask, when do you feel that Holocaust education should begin, and how should
students be educated about it?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I remain truly
puzzled why we act with such little energy for others. I thought 30+ years ago
when Elie Wiesel and I taught the first classes on the Holocaust in American
universities that if we only educated people and wrote about the holocaust that
we could energize people to care. Now I know that we need to do this all the
time. But I also see caring, determined young (and old) people. Perhaps it will
never be a matterof "numbers" of people but the determination of those who
see.
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:30PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The Theory of Stefan
Steiner:
a.We all accept Darwin's Theory of Evolution
b. It takes
many, many millions of years for change to evolve - for example the shape of the
shell of the tortoise neck line on the Galapagos, to allow it to lift its head a
little higher, and so to eat from plants slightly above the ground.
c.
How long has Man been on this earth? 50, 000 years (say)
d. in ternms of
Evolution that is absolutely nothing.
e. Ergo - how can we expect man
today to be any different in his behavious to waht he was while still a cave
dweller?
f. therefore - why do you expect a change in one or two
generations?
GYNMan (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 7:31PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - I am familiar with Lifton, his book is
the source of my interest in the holocaust. I have found valuable data by
exploring Lifton's sources. My struggle is that I have exhausted these and
although I can sense the information I seek, I don't know how to get it.
Example: Lifton refers to Wirths' apologia; how can I find it?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:32PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I don't mean to
take anything away from Goldhagen. Several of us have written and said the very
same thing for years. It is nothing new. So what does the response mean? It is
just like Schindler's List. Why the response? It tells me that we need to do
this and write this and say this over and over over over again. For that reason,
I am very glad to have Goldhagen's book - and to have Irving's book stopped
(even though I don't believe in censorship).
bear123 (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:32PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr.K Justas the
technology of terror and destruction has "improved" ovr the centuries we have
also improved communication skills, political philosophy, and understanding
which could, if we had the faith in it that we had in violence, help us to stop
the madness before it becomes genocide.
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:34PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Or the
technology could better serve purposes not unlike what went on during the
Holocaust--it was highly systematic, and technological.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:35PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I agree with you Dr. Feig; it is
the indifference we have to address and change. How do we get people to care
about other people? It's a big question.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:36PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
1-Medicine.
Yes, I can help. But give your EMail to Cyber Library and I will
respond.
On teaching: Why so few courses on the Holocaust? It is
difficult to teach. But I have taught it at least 120 times. It does not seem to
be a priority. People are afraid to look at dying and death. What I try to show
others is that if one can just get through the death and dying, on the other
side one sees the enormous capacity for life and living of ordinary human
beings. The survivors know they were ordinary. Their lives tell us something
about the possibilities of humans. But we miss our own strengths when we refuse
to venture out and look.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:39PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let us think of
a garden for a moment. The growth of plants and seeds all depends on the soil
p
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:39PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
How about
the aspect of being imbued with a certain ideology of supriority of inferiority
ofa particular group on the basis of supposed racial differences. Which leads to
a belif that certain groups are beyond the pale. Are not really human beings.
And if that is all one is allowed to hear one comes to believe it. How many
Americans ever protested the treatment of the American Native People? And they
weren't even living under a dictatorship?
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:40PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I regret the repeated message - we keep
losing contact and having to re-load.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:41PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
(Sorrry my
modem went off line) Anyway, it all depends on the soil. We know that Christian
Theological Antisemitism for centuries throughout Europe from Germany to Austria
to Croatia to Hungary to Romania prepared the soil. Centuries of deep AS from
the churches. It is clear to me, a Gentile, that without that AS, Hitler and
Mussolin, and Pavelic, and Vichy, and others would not have been able to
energize the people. After all, a few SS men and a few guards in all these
countries could not have killed the Jews and Gypsies.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:42PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I was very curious to
learn your views on Holocaust education, beacause I am a high school student,
and the school district in which I attend has implimented Holocaust studies into
the Jr.High lesson plans, and many parent's dissaggreed with the methods that
were used to teach the children. When I took the class, I found it to be very
informative and educational. The teacher was not hiding anything and showed the
class everything that happened including footage from a camp.
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:42PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
What kind of
strengths, Dr. Feig, do you think we can learn from survivors?<
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:43PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
That's true. Many of Hitler's
antisemitic ideas came from his teachers and from "The protocols of the elders
of Zion". They were not his original ideas.
WD (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:44PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On education and the
Holocaust - this brings up some troubling issues with me. My father was a German
soldier (a Nazi). In school, my brother's class was just learning about the
horros of the Holocaust and of the war. What they were taught was that since
Germans were Nazis, all Germans are bad. As a consequence of this 'reasoning'
another boy kicked my brother, calling him a Nazi. My brother died as a
consequence. This was in California in 1969. My brother was 10 years old. The
other boy was Mexican and also 10 years old.
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:45PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I think we
have to look very closely at the events that gradually led to the Holocaust. For
example when I read the dispatches of the World Jewish Congress where they
express deep concern how far-right-wing parties are becoming part of the
mainstream political scene in Europe and elsewhere. And if they, a rather
conservative body are concerned than I am afraid. This is the kind of graduality
I am talking about. We have to recognize the signs early when we can still do
something about it.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:46PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
High school
student - good for you. The education should start in the jr and high schools -
but we need to insist or at least to ask. I visited "visited" the refugee camps
in Croatia in August - and talked with some of the thousands of muslim women who
had been genocidally raped. It reminded me of the women from the camps who had
been victims of the medical experiments. Somehow, in my mind, all this horror is
beginning to run together a bit. I tell students to just go and help. I just
went and helped. And so much help is needed. I use my money. No one pays me. My
students just go. We have to act. I sent my students into Russian whenever the
KGB turned down my visas. They did better than I did. Maybe Anne Frank was
right: "The youth will save the world"
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:48PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
It seems that Dr. Feig may still
be having modem problems. I'm sure she'll return soon. Powerful discussion!
AnGuS.Y (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:48PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Anyone have Ideas
For who is responsable,like all the ss or was it antone who Knew.
RUFUS1 (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:49PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Fieg..my
motherin law was in the camps but she doesn't talk about it.How can one draw it
out so the grand kids can hear it first hand ?
WD (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:50PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On education and the
Holocaust - this brings up some troubling issues with me. My father was a German
soldier (a Nazi). In school, my brother's class was just learning about the
horros of the Holocaust and of the war. What they were taught was that since
Germans were Nazis, all Germans are bad. As a consequence of this 'reasoning'
another boy kicked my brother, calling him a Nazi. My brother died as a
consequence. This was in California in 1969. My brother was 10 years old. The
other boy was Mexican and also 10 years old.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:51PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I would,
however, like to talk for a moment about human decency. The Holocaust could not
have happened in the absence of criminal indifference. Decency is not heroism,
it is the minimum standard necessary to be able to live with oneself, I think.
In 1939, decency, we have larned, is not normal and not easy. The failure to
know is indecent. No wanting to know alwaysmeans knowing enought o know that one
doesn't want to know more. I think the Holo teaches us that we cannot afford the
luxury of selective knowing. Of the 10 commandments which form the ethical
foundation of the Judeo-Christian tradition, 8 are prohibitive. Only 2 tells
what to do. The rest tell us what not to do. They fail as a prescription for
decency. We cannot be decent, I think, only by refraingin from certain acts: by
not killing, not lying, etc. So it would appear that we need a new
definition.
kmcvay (Vancouver
Island): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:52PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
'Evening, everyone...
sorry to be late....
WD (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:53PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
When she returns, the
question I have for Dr. Feig is how has education of the Holocaust changed in
the years following the 50's (if there was any in grade schools back then, I
don't know). And my question to K2A is what have you learned about yourself in
general through the lessons of the past?
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:54PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
There are
so many differen aspects to this discussion. For example the question of
minority rights in any given country ot erritory. Historically speakinf it is a
young phenominan. 100-120 years old at best. It took deep roots in Denamark for
example but not in Germany and Hungary to mention only two, in spite of the
Enlightment and Emancipation.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:54PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD, I also hear, especially from
some survivors, that all Germans were bad. But I know better. My mother was a
German. Hatred is hatred.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:55PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
So many of my
friends are survivors of the camps. So many of my friends are survivors of the
Gulags. And now, so many of my friends are survivors of genocidal raped and
attemped annihilation in Bosnia. They have, of course, enriched my life. But
they have also taught me of the potential of ordinary humans to be extraordinary
and to struggle for life and living and to honor life and living. If anything, I
am eternally grateful.
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:56PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Rufus - you have pointed out a real
dilema. The question is - whose needs are greater? Those of the children whom
you want to hear the story - or the grandmother who suppresses the pain. You
must be aware that even today, 50 years on, many of the survivers break down and
suffer mental collapses as a result of the memories overwhelming them. Without
knowing the individual I would not presume to attempt to give you an answer.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:59PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Many of my
students are German. I also know 2 of the children of rather important Nazis. As
Elie Wiesel has said sowell, "Only the people who did it or who did not stop it
are guilty." No children are guilty. No Germans today. No Hungarians, etc. We
must not carry that blame over. I think what happened to our young German
friend's brother is appalling. And so unnecessary and so stupid. We have enough
trouble judging and getting justice for those responsible - and then to blame
children. My G-d.
GYNMan (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 7:59PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - Thanks for the opportunity to speak
with you. My thanks to the Cybrary for a successful event. I'll leave my address
with Joey Korn as you suggested. Signing off...
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:01PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr Feig, I think that you must add to
the equation that the German children are blaming themselves - it is not all
coming from us.
I'm so sorry for my messages
to be doubled and tripled, I do not know why this is happening. My apologies.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:02PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I will stay for
a few moments after if they let us. But first I want to thank you all for
inviting me. and then I want to say what I have been thinking about. I thik
wemust not allow a sense of the ordinary to develop about human misery and
destruction, normust we permit any dignity to our new knowledge that anything
and everything is possible. We must as Emily Dickinson said, hold deep within
ourselves a sense of scandal so overwhelming that it affects every significant
aspect of our lives. We must keep our soul terribly surprised. Thank you all.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:02PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I'll look forward to hearing from
you GYNMan.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD, if you go into where Netscape
shows the location of the site, you'll see your message. You'll have to scroll
way over to the right. Sometimes it stays there and repeats every time you
refresh. Just delete it.
RUFUS1 (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
David Lewin..I
would like to try to talk her into giving testimony at the Montreal Holo
Museum.I think it's important for the next generation to know what happened as
first hand as possible.
kmcvay (Vancouver
Island): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:05PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I recently heard Dr.
Racelle Weiman speak on the topic of "Holocaust Un-Education." It was a
fascinating experience. She noted that when we decide to teach the Holocaust, we
slap it into "history." History = something finished. Alas, the Holocaust is NOT
finished; witness the story about WD's brother. It is real, and it is a current
event - witness the Survivors' pain. We need to rethink our priorities here, and
view the event quite differently if it is to serve any purpose.
David Lewin (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:05PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
It is 4 am in London. I did not think we
would stay the course. It is time for Shacharit - and I would like to thank the
organisers for a first class effort - and success! Thank you everyone - it was
fascinating and enlightening.
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:06PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for
all involved for this opportunity. Shoah commemoration on the Internet. It must
be the first and I am glad I could participate with all of you. Judy Cohen
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:06PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig, certainly it is OK to
stay on. We are honored.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:07PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD: In answer to your
question, I have known since I was very young that I wanted to go into politics.
Studying the past, including the Holocaust has helped me to realize what I need
to do to make sure that my generation does not let history repeat itself, as
other generations have. For example, I go to school with a Croatian boy. He was
sent to the U.S. to get him away from the war so that he may have a chance at a
better future. To hear him talk of his homeland, it saddend me. As people
learned of the Holocaust, everyoone said "never again." Looking at the current
situation in the former Yougoslavia, isn't this just another form of racial
purification? I feel that it is the duty of my generation to make sure that this
does not continue. We, as a world society, need to realize thatit is up to the
youth to stop these crimes against humanity. That is what I've learned from
Holocaust study. And, if it is any sign of the affect these classes have had on
me, it has been two years since I had a Holocaust class and I still suffer
nightmares from films I saw of the death camps.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:07PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I believe I see
Ken McVay. And I owe him a thanks. He contacted me to help. And I was so busy in
Bosnia and with the Neo Nazis and with Yugoslavia that I said no. I didn't want
anymore swastikas painted on my car or slit-open rats on my front seat of my
car, or etec. But I thought about it and here I am. If that is you Ken, thank
you, I think.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:08PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
David, Thank you for joining us. I
didn't think you would make it this long. Farewell Judy. Thanks for joining
us.<
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:11PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We all owe a
debt to Joey Korn and his colleagues. This "conference" was much work and if I
knew how to stand up and clap on Net for him, I would do so.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:14PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let me close
with education. My Holocaust students last quarter agreed to do a Web page on
the class and the Holocaust. We are almost finished with it and I am very proud
of them. Look it up in about 3 weeks at Foothill College. Just type it in a
search machine. Then go to Divisions and then to Business and Social Sciences.
We (they) will welcome your visit. They are outstanding honors students and have
some very important messages
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Thank you Dr. Feig for helping us
to make this an excellent first attempt at a Yom Hashoah Chat Conference. We
made history, I think. You helped us end our conference powerfully. We all could
have stayed. Some left early. Thanks to you, Mike Declan Dunn, and to WebChat.
May we always remember.
writething (Cybrary
WebMaster): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig, could you
let us know the address and we will link from the Cybrary? I want to thank all
for sharing and will put up this chat in the next week. I've had to stay behind
the scenes to capture it all...amazing...thanks...peace.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We will be glad to put a link to
your student's pages in the Cybrary. Thanks for everything you've done and still
do in your work.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:17PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Goodnight. We
will talk later. Thanks.,
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:17PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We will be glad to put a link to
your student's pages in the Cybrary. Thanks for everything you've done and still
do in your work.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Good night all.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:19PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Good night all.
DR. TEJ (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:35PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Sorry I missed the chat. Goodnight all.
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